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Voter Guide: Brown, Whitman clash on immigration

Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman have both struggled to define their position on immigration during an election year in which the Latino vote is critical and tough laws in a neighboring state have made headlines. Whitman arguably has had a more difficult road, trying to find a middle ground between conservatives who favor stricter regulations and Latinos whom she needs to win.

The GOP candidate, who has advocated penalizing employers who hire illegal immigrants, was also dogged by several days of scandal after it was revealed she had employed an illegal immigrant as a housekeeper for nine years.

California Watch has been tracking every comment, promise and deflection by Whitman and Brown on the issue of the immigration over at Politics Verbatim. This post is the second in a series that is tapping those records to lay out both candidates' stances in detail. Up until Election Day, we'll also be tackling important topics like the environment, jobs and taxes.

On immigration, Whitman and Brown actually share some common ground. Both support a guest-worker program for agricultural laborers and oppose sanctuary cities. They agree the U.S.-Mexico border needs to be secured.

The clearest policy difference between the two is how they would deal with the millions of illegal immigrants already in the country.

Brown believes in a path to citizenship, calling it “the only human thing to do.” He supports the DREAM Act, federal legislation that would make citizenship possible for those brought here illegally as children. He has also said he believes students should be able to attend state universities regardless of immigration status and that such legislation would be "one of the first bills I sign" after dealing with the budget.

“I want to treat everyone whether they're documented or not as God's child,” he said during the Fresno debate.

Whitman considers a path to legalization “amnesty” and is staunchly opposed to it. Like fellow Republican and U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina, she has largely avoided addressing the issue of illegal immigrants already living here. Her statements have focused instead on securing the border and strengthening controls for preventing illegal immigration.

She has mocked Brown's position on illegal immigrants attending state universities as out of touch with fiscal reality. "I believe that in this time of fiscal crisis and strain on our public colleges and universities, our priority must be to help kids who are legal residents go to state supported colleges," she said in a press release recently.

Under AB 540, college students who attended a California high school for at least three years can already attend community colleges and state universities at the in-state tuition rate, regardless of legal status. According to a Sacramento Bee analysis, illegal immigrants make up less than 1 percent of college enrollment through the state system.

Unlike her campaign chairman, Pete Wilson, Whitman has said she does believe the children of illegal immigrants have the right to attend K-12 schools.

The controversial Arizona law has been somewhat of a stumbling block for Whitman. Many conservatives in her party support the stringent legislation, which allows police to detain anyone suspected of being illegal, and accused the GOP candidate of softening her stance after the primary – something Whitman has strongly denied. She has said she supports Arizona’s right to enact the legislation but does not believe it's right for California – partly because it will face too many legal hurdles and partly because “we have a much bigger state with much bigger geography."

Brown has called the law "legally problematic."

Like Whitman, the attorney general has taken heat from his party over his immigration stance. Latino and civil rights groups have railed against his support of Secure Communities, a program that requires local law enforcement to send the fingerprints of people booked into jail to federal authorities. As attorney general, Brown refused to allow San Francisco to opt out of the program. Several counties, including San Francisco, have since appealed to the federal government.

Although they both oppose sanctuary cities, Brown had Whitman have starkly different takes on what, if anything, should be done about them. Brown says he would not take action against cities like San Francisco, whose local authorities do not enforce federal immigration law. His goal, he says, is to implement “comprehensive reforms” that will eliminate the need for sanctuary cities. Whitman’s opposition to sanctuary cities goes beyond ideology. If elected governor, she would withhold funds from cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego, she says. In August, government representatives told the San Francisco Chronicle such a move appeared to be beyond the governor's authority.

 

 

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jskdn2's picture
Whitman appears to have no core beliefs about illegal immigration. She began her campaign by supporting amnesty last October if the use of the focus-group tested language of amnesty proponents is evidence of that. In a San Diego Union-Tribune article last October entitled, “Path to citizenship needed, GOP candidate Whitman says,” Whitman was quoted as saying, “Can we get a fair program where people stand at the back of the line, they pay a fine, they do some things that would ultimately allow a path to legalization?” It was only after Steve Poizner made illegal immigration an issue that Whitman changed her rhetoric on the issue and then abruptly changed it again after the primary. Of course the problem for any candidate that might actually oppose illegal immigration as evidenced by a willingness to take effective actions required to control it is that campaigns are filtered through a media that overwhelming opposes that and eschews journalistic standards to further that agenda. Without reporters dedicated to the truth, there is no way to hold candidates and elected officials accountable for the mass illegal immigration they have been complicit in promoting. The ability of media to effectively disenfranchise much of the electorate from having their opposition to illegal immigration fairly considered in the public debates undermines their ability able to get a government that represents them on this issue. I'll just note that a recent Christian Science Monitor poll even found that a slight majority nationwide was against the k-12 education of illegal immigrants and where the impacts were greatest the support was lower. “Regionally, support for educating young illegal immigrants is weakest in the West, which has absorbed the lion's share of newcomers in the past generation. Forty-two percent of Westerners support public schooling for such children, compared with 47 percent in the South, 50 percent in the Midwest, and 52 percent in the Northeast.” http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/1015/Americans-split-over-pub...
wfraser01's picture
Iwould like to share this, I don't feel like either Whitman or Brown would make a good experienced Governer. Nither one really wants to face issues California is in. California is BROKE, and all I read or see is how both as spent so much money in running for the seat. Who cares, why don't they sit down and show on paper, how they will bring this state out of debt. I am sit and tired of empty promises, I am sick and tired of all the bickering and sick and tired of showing California no proof on how either one of them will do anything!!!! Oh they are pro this and that, and I feel this about immigration, yet NOTHING. MY VOTE IS NITHER ONE OF THEM MAKES GOVERNER. I feel that I am going to look at who running along-side of them who has the GUTS TO SHARE WHAT THEY WILL DO. SO CALIFORNIA VOTE SOMEONE ELSE FOR GOVERNER.
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