Is Whitman right about a bloated state government?

Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman wants to chop the state's workforce by 40,000 employees, a pledge she made again this weekend at the state GOP convention. But does the nation-state of California really have such a bloated government?

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Not according to the Center for Continuing Study of the California Economy, an independent research group based in Palo Alto. The director, Stephen Levy, is one of the principal experts on the state's economy, and he reported in December:

"There is broad agreement that seeking efficiencies in government programs is good public policy. Yet, the data suggest that at the aggregate level California is not overstaffed relative to caseloads in the major program areas. Indeed, a stronger case can be made that public programs are being carried out with less staffing than in most other states."

In his report from last December, Levy's organization found that California – which has 38 million residents – had the third lowest number of full-time state government employees relative to the population.

California and Florida both had 103 state employees for every 10,000 residents, while Illinois had the lowest ratio at 97, the group reported. The U.S. average was 143 state employees per 10,000 residents, with California 28 percent below the national average.

But what about all the local government employees? Even adding those to the mix, California still has a comparatively small workforce, according to the employment and population numbers from 2008. The report concluded:

When state and local government employees (including education) are added together, California has the fourth lowest ratio of employees to population. California had 484 state and local full-time equivalent employees per 10,000 residents in 2008 compared to the national average of 549. Nevada was the state with the lowest ratio (440) followed by Michigan (475), Pennsylvania (478), and Utah (493). California’s ratio was 12 percent below the national average.

Levy's group also found that between March 2008 and October 2009, the number of state and local government jobs declined by approximately 70,000, while the state added approximately 600,000 residents.

Whether the government payroll is inflated or not depends a bit on your perspective, of course. Could some government services, such as running prisons or monitoring toxic waste in rivers, be performed more efficiently and effectively in the private sector? Is California simply one of the least bloated out of 50 bloated state governments?

Whitman uses state Department of Finance figures to highlight the total number of all state employees, including University of California, California State University, employees of the Legislature and state courts, the state pension system, and other departments outside of the governor's direct control and, in some cases, operating without general fund support.

That figure shows state positions have grown from 313,684 in the 2004-05 state budget to 345,288 in the current budget.

But look at the (PDF) chart Whitman links to on her Web site. Another measure of state government spending has been reduced or stayed flat, even while the number of all state employees has increased. The state of California is spending less per capita and less per $100 of personal income than it did in 2004-05.

Speaking at the state GOP convention this weekend, Whitman offered no detailed analysis on whether the state could handle a loss of 40,000 employees – longer DMV lines, fewer prison guards? – but she did promise to "spur productivity in our workforce by harnessing the power of technology."

"The next Governor must make tough decisions," Whitman said, echoing one of her recent radio ads. "And I am the only candidate in the race who has the ability and experience to stand up to the public employee unions and lay down the law: I am committed to reducing the state workforce by 40,000, back to 2004-2005 levels. And I won’t back down."

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Elliott_James's picture
State worker salary and benefits comprise 11% of the State budget. Why doesn't Whitman focus on the other 89% of the budget, where the real savings are?
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Mitchell Wrap's picture
It surely makes a nice populist sound byte to say you will reduce state government by 40k employees, but we all know the reality will be quite different. The people let go will not be the people that should go. If it was the right 40k employees, the State could actually improve dramatically.


For instance, a friend of mine got hired by PERS 5 months ago. He has a degree and lots of outside experience, training (not paid for by the State), and a great work ethic. And since he is new, he is at the bottom rung of the pay ladder and leave accrual. Based on all the rules for letting people go, he will be first in line to go. So the bargain priced, still hard working employee will be gone.


Contrast this with the seniority of the grape-shirted malcontents that have the ability to march on the Capitol seemingly every Wednesday afternoon. These are the folks maxed out in pay and leave accrual. How essential are their jobs if they can be on union time bank leave continuously? But these will be the people saved from layoffs.


As a fiscal conservative, I have always stated if you paid 20% more you would save a lot more than that amount. Higher pay attracts higher qualified candidates. In the end you would only need 1 qualified, content and motivated employee for a position rather than 3 unqualified, inexperienced employees plus their retirements and their dependents on the health care system.


Meg is more of the same, just with more cash on hand...a potted plant could have ran ebay. Poizner is all talk. If someone gets into the bowels of the Dept of Insurance, he is done too. These two fools are handing it to Jerry Brown. I don't know if that is a bad thing either.

PN Peterson's picture
It's not just the number of employees, but their pay and benefits. The real "answer" to the question you raise, is that events have obviated its asking. City and County governments can simply not afford the costs - not just of its employees, but of the tasks they have taken on. Read Sunday's LAT Editorial (http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/14/opinion/la-ed-city14-2010mar14 ). You are starting from a premise that everything State and Local governments do is correct, and any cuts would turn out prison inmates and kill people. This is what the great Democratic icon, Willie Brown wrote recently in the SFChronicle: “The deal used to be that civil servants were paid less than private sector workers in exchange for an understanding that they had job security for life. But we politicians—pushed by our friends in labor—gradually expanded pay and benefits . . . while keeping the job protections and layering on incredibly generous retirement packages. . . . [A]t some point, someone is going to have to get honest about the fact.” Government analyst, Steve Frates said this recently about pensions: "Expenditures for public pensions have gone up much faster than the per capita personal income of the citizens who pay for them, which means there has been a wealth transfer from the taxpayers to the recipients of those benefits," Frates said. "Over the last five or 10 years, government revenues went up very fast, but spending went up faster ... it was primarily for the salaries and benefits of government employees." Defend our "efficient" governments all you want, Robert, as Boomer civil servants retire, this problem will go from bad to worse.
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These are the folks maxed out in pay and leave accrual. How essential are their jobs if they can be on union time bank leave continuously? But these will be the people saved from layoffs. Automotive tools : Solar panels
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I think now politicians should start delivering their mandates in more detail, just like an engineer would give a detailed report to his boss if he has some good plan which has the potential to change company's fortunes so we know what really our politicians wants to do so we can give them our full support because we have seen many politicians in the past claiming all of these but I think what we need from them is a way on how they would be proceed with their plans. While the Californian state is struggling with their budgets and expenses but I think to fire 40,000 employees at once would be a disaster for them and for the state, don't get me wrong..I am not against removing bloat from the government and infact it's a good idea but I think government should not fire them all at once but rather fire them in parts. And if Meg wants to take tough decisions, the toughest one in my opinion would be to as Mitchell said kick out those top-level employees who are not contributing and not those new employees who have joined and are enthusiastic about their job in government. - Ken Lake Las Vegas real estate
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medical002's picture
As a fiscal conservative, I have always stated if you paid 20% more you would save a lot more than that amount. Higher pay attracts higher qualified candidates. In the end you would only need 1 qualified, content and motivated employee for a position rather than 3 unqualified, inexperienced employees plus their retirements and their dependents on the health care system.
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Actually, a strong case can be made that public programs are being carried out with less staffing than private programs.Government jobs at the state and local level clearly got bloated and we can’t just keep pumping money into these economies forever while we wait for a recovery. Zazx - interested in remedy for anxiety
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tufty's picture
I think in the future many state jobs will have to be cut for government to survive the economic downturn. The private sector will be the only rescue and I can envisage many institutions ending up under private control.
jaded's picture
She might be right, but still, there are lots of things to consider.
LVVR's picture
There's been a lot of talk also about how bloated our CIA is.

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